I am a pretty simple guy when it comes to climbing.
dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.
- dealing with the problems that exist in a specific situation in a reasonable and logical way instead of depending on ideas and theories ...
But I always have my ears and more recently my mind open to what others think of their own gear. I actually prefer the old fashion method of coming to an opinion (no matter how opposite that might be to the "general" consensus). I base my opinions on my own experiences and I'm skeptical of anything I get told until I can duplicate the results.
These days climbing is big business. Many times the opinions we see/read are nothing more than the spin on the ad copy someone wants you to believe so you will buy their product. Professionals in the field will endorse what ever product they are given, generally without ever knowing any details about what else is available. "The last thing they used is the best thing they have used." Happens when you are paid to tell us just how good the next "Ford Pinto" really is. That is why they are sponsored in the first place. They are the poster children of the "MAN", which is climbing big business. Many times having not seen the newest Porsche, while they are stuck driving that Pinto around, fat dumb and happy. Hey it is "free" gear after all and some extra coin for the next plane ticket.
Don't get me wrong. here. Just about every product I can think of has an comparable product to choose from these days in climbing. From boots to shoes, clothing to ropes many good ones, few really bad ones. None of the bad ones will you seen here on Cold Thistle.
So how do you choose the "best of whatever" without trying everything out yourself? Hard copy climbing magazines are long out of date IMO. But then everyone finally realised that magazine articles and reviews are simply bought. Yep bought and paid for with cold hard cash and additional swag.
I don't need the strongest, or the most technical stuff. I've seen screws, axes and crampons fail. But I have also seen them all take some really serious use and abuse. I like light weight. But at some point things can get too light and not actually work with out reorganizing your entire kit. That is a bad plan financially if money is important to you.
I still look for the lightest version of what ever is available. You never know what you might come up with. But weight is not the end all on gear. Sometimes more is less.
A few years ago I spent some time, effort and money to find the best ice screws for my own use. Only one requirement for me to be the best..."how quick would it go in". Beginning and End to that discussion for me. "How fast will it go in?".
I have since tried that same test over and over again several times with all the unusual suspects. Always with the same results. My last test was two winters ago now.
results are here:
I have wondered about the details as to why I get the results I do. But ceased to worry about it since that last test. I am a believer until something else comes along that is better. And that will eventually happen. May have already. I don't/haven't see everything.
I also don't worry at all these days about what a ice screw will hold for weight. I either get "good" screws when I am climbing, if required, mentally switch to soloing or simply don't climb that particular piece of ice. It is easy really. From my perspective "every thing" goes in and comes out easier than a Snarg or a Warthog. And everything you put in the ice these days is going to hold a lot more in a fall than an over-driven Snarg. Rule #1? Don't fall. If you can't abide #1 use rock pro and tie down your belayer for good measure.
The amazing action photo (and FA) is courtesy of legendary Montana ice hardman, Pete Tapley.
The photos below might be good food for thought when buying ice gear while wondering, "Just what are the real differences in ice screws? Are there any?"
This is a good conversation starter:
A few errors and soem lack of information in that conversation to better understand what is happening I think.
"What actually happens as you pull out a reverse thread screw (Grivel) is that because of the lines of strength facing outwards, the same force is spread to MORE ice. So more ice is involved, making the whole placement stronger and able to hold more weight while absorbing more energy. You are actually increasing the surface area that is being pulled on with a reverse threaded ice screw."
I don't care what screws you climb on. Never fall and this kind of theoretical stuff will never be tested. I have given away many more ice screws than I currently own. In the recent past companies gave me screws. Never been given any ice screw I actually want to climb on if given a choice.
Like I said I am a simple guy. I use what I can most easily place. No great pictures to show you that. But I love it when a picture tells a story so much better than the sales hype. My first thought when I saw these years ago was, " I don't climb on concrete". Or understand why they are pulling straight out. Then I rethought the "concrete" some and the winter gully ice I found in the Alps :)
Which had me ponderig the pictures and test data again.
Black Diamond screw pulled to failure from concrete.
Nice bore hole the result.
same test, same concrete with a Grivel reversed thread.
deep dish pizza anyone?
reverse thread pull to failure on concrete
additional data on points o nthe testing:
Paper presented at the UIAA Safety Commission on 9-11 May 2007 in Munich.
Crack pipe or pizza..take your pick ;) But then again, if nothing else it is worth thinking about, even if you are like me and not climbing on concrete and never going to fall. Or at least not fallen yet.