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Wednesday, April 7, 2010

Weights?

For my own sanity I have decided to log a bunch of gear weights so I can refer back to them as required. I'll add more weights as I get time. All listed numbers are the most current weights I have from a digital scale and gear I actually have on hand. There are no industry numbers posted...because short of Black Diamonds #s (and those I check) most are significantly inaccurate and misleading if you are trying to sort your own gear.

Worth spending $30/40 on a good digital scale if you get serious about it.

2/2011 revision.

Packs

Cold Cold World 35l custom climbing sack, Spectra rip stop, 1#9oz 709g
Same CCW in balistics nylon 2#6oz, sans lid 1#14oz
REI Flash 18l 9.2oz / 261g
Arcteryx Khazri 35l 2#13oz / 1275g
CCW Chaos, custom 21" back, Spectra r/s, 3#10 no lid 2#10oz
Jensen red pack cloth LG 1# 11oz
Jensen green 8oz Cordura 2#3oz
Fall '10 Cilo 30L in 210d Dyneema r/s 17" back 2# 9oz


Boots.. one boot .. (size 45)

La Sportiva Spantik 3#.05oz / 1362g
La Sportiva Spantik with a Baruntse liner 2# 12oz / 1247g
La Sportiva Baruntse 3#2.5oz / 53oz 1502g
La Sportiva Batura 1st gen. 2#7oz / 39oz, 1105g
La Sportiva Batura 2nd gen 2#11/ 43oz 1219gm
La Sportiva Nepal Evo 2#10.5oz / 42.5oz/ 1205g
La Sportiva Trango Evo Extreme GTX 2#3oz (35oz) / 992g
Scarpa Phantom Ultra new 2010 model 2#3.5oz (35.5oz) / 1006g
Scarpa Phantom Guide new 2010 model 2#7.5oz / 39.5oz,  1120g
Scarpa Phantom 6000 new 2010 model 2#10oz (a full dbl boot with intergal gaiter) / 1190g

Ice tools
Original Petzl Quark hammer 1# 8oz / 682g
Petzl Nomic with mixed pick/weight 1# 6.8oz / 648g
Black Diamond Cobra or 1 lb 5 oz (mini hammer) / 600g
Black Diamond Viper or 1 lb 6 oz (hammer) / 625g
2nd gen Black Diamond Fusion (green) 1#9oz / 680g
Chouinard 55cm bamboo 770g
Chouinard alpine hammer 533g
Terrodactyl hammer 790g
Nomic/Quark CT Adze 46g- 4mm lwt hammer
Nomic/Quark Petzl Adze 72- hammer 60g

Carabiners (times 20 or 30!)

Black Diamond solid D 50g
Black Diamond wire gate D 46g
Wild Country wire gate D 40g
Trango lwt wire 28g
Black Diamond Oz 28g

Cams

Metolius Master cam 2.5" 110g
Original Wild Country Friend #2.5 130g
Original Wild Country Frend #3 142g
Wild Country Tech Friend #3 152g

Ice screws

12cm Grivel Helix 5.1oz / 144g
13cm Black Diamond (newest) Express 4.8oz / 136g
16cm Grivel Helix 5.8 oz / 166g
16cm Black Diamond Express 5.1oz / 144g
19cm Black Diamond 5.6oz / 159g

Belay jackets

Wild Things, Belay Jacket, 34oz pre 2010 / 963g
Eddie Bauer XV 38.5oz / 1091g
MEC Tango, 31.7oz / 898g
Patagonia DAS (new) 36.9oz / 1046g
Arcteryx Duelly 28oz / 794g
Narrona Lyngen 26oz / 737g
Narrona Trollveggen 37.5oz / 1063g
Arcteryx Atom Hoody SV 19.0 oz / 538g
Mountain Hardwear Compressor Hoody Primaloft 1 19.8oz / 561g
Mammut Ambler 47.2oz / 1338g

Lightly insulated jackets (belay sweaters) and shells

EB Downlight Hoodie Pullover XL 15.4 oz / 455g
EB Frontpoint XL 18.5oz / 547g
Westcomb Apoc in Polatec NeoShell  17oz. /  485g
Arcteryx Atom lt Hoody large 14.4oz / 429g
Arcteryx Atom Hoody SV 19.0 oz / 562g
Mountain Hardwear Compressor Hoody 19.8oz / 586g
Arcteryx Gamma MX Hoody XL 24oz / 710g
Arcteryx Squamish pullover XL 5.6oz -166g
Marmot Hyper Jacket weight 13.3 oz

Pants

Paradox, mid weight longs 8oz / 227g
Arcteryx Gamma Lt large 12.4 oz / 351g
Mountain Hardwear Ridge Runner 3/4 16oz / 453g
Arcteryx Gamma MX large 19oz / 539g
NWAlpine salopettes large 21.6oz / 612g
Arcteryx Gamma MX salopettes large 30.4oz / 861g
Arcteryx GoreTex Theta Bib large 23.3oz / 660g

Helmets

Black Diamond Traser 8.5oz / 241g
Black Diamond Half Dome 12oz / 340g
Petzl Ecrin Roc 16oz / 453g
Grivel Salamander 13.7oz / 388g
Petzl Elios 12oz / 340g
Petzl Meteor III 7.9oz / 224g

Crampons per pair

Black Diamond Stinger, w/ full bot 32oz / 900g
Petzl Dartwin 1/2 bot 30.5oz / 865g
Petzl Dart no bot 28.8oz / 816g
Grivel G12 ful bot 35.6oz / 1010g
Grivel G 20 28.2 oz / 800g
Grivel G 22 w/full bot 900g
Black Diamond Stainless Sabertooth full bot 34.2oz / 969g
Black Diamond Stainless Sabertooth no bot with Petzl bail toe 28.4oz / 808g
Black Diamond Stainless Cyborg full bot 39.4oz / 1116g
Black Diamond Stainless Cyborg, mono, no bot, 28.6oz / 811g
Salewa/Chouinard hinged with straps (1980) 880g
Salewa/Chouinard clip-on rigids (1990) 920g




2010 weight list:

Boots...weight of one boot, 1/2 pair
all size 45 or 11.5/12US

Spantik 3#.o5oz
shell only 2#7.5oz
Spantik with a Baruntse liner 2# 12oz (45.5 shell-45.5/46 liner)
Baruntse 3#2.5oz
shell only 2#14.5oz
shell with a lwt vibram sole 2# 11oz
Baruntse w/inner and lwt sole 2#15.5oz
Intuition liner 5.4oz
Baruntse Palua liner 5oz
Spantik liner 9oz.
Sportiva Batura 1st gen. 2#7oz
Nepal Evo 2#10.5oz
Trango Evo Extreme GTX 2#3oz (35oz)
Trango Prime 2#2.7oz
Trango Ice Evo 2#2.5oz (mod with lace eyelets)
Trango S evo GTX (red) 1#13oz

Galibier Super Guides 2#15oz (1980)
Kolfach Ultra w/Aveolite liners 2#10oz (1980)

Scarpa Phantom Ultra new 2010 model 2#3.5oz (35.5oz)
Scarpa Phantom Guide new 2010 model 2#7.5oz
Scarpa Phantom 6000 new 2010 model 2#10oz (a full dbl boot with intergal gaiter)


Tools:

Original Quark hammer 1# 6.6oz
Quark no rear tool 1# 4.6oz
Cut down Quark with Cascade pick no pick weight 1#5.7oz
Cut down Quark with weight added 1#8oz
Quark mixed pick 4.7oz
Nomic with mixed pick 1# 6.6oz
Nomic pick weight 2.2oz pair
Nomic mixed pick 6.6oz

BD Cobra
617 g or 1 lb 6 oz (Adze)
588 g or 1 lb 5 oz (Hammer)


BD Viper
655 g or 1 lb 7 oz (Adze)
625 g or 1 lb 6 oz (Hammer)


BD 2nd gen Fusion (green) 1#9oz or 680g

Ice screws:

10cm Helix 5.1oz

2-10cm   2-15cm  1-20cm =  70cm 28.8oz / 816g

13cm BD (newest) Express 4.8oz

2- 13cm  2-16cm  1-19cm = 77cm 25.6oz / 726g

Belay jackets, all XL unless noted:

Wild Things, Belay Jacket, 34oz  pre 2010
Eddie Bauer XV 38.5oz
MEC Tango, 31.7oz,
Patagonia DAS (new) 36.9oz
Arcteryx Duelly 28oz
Narrona Lyngen 26oz
Narron Trollveggen 37.5oz
Arcteryx Atom Hoody SV 19.0 oz
Mtn Hardware Compressor Hoody 19.8oz
Mammut Ambler 47.2oz
FF Hooded Helious 35.2 (XXL)
FF Frontpoint 40.8oz

Lightly insulated jackets (belay sweaters) and shells:

EB Downlight Hoodie Pullover XL 15.4 oz -455g
EB Frontpoint XL 18.5oz -547g
Arcteryx Atom lt Hoody large 14.4oz- 429g
Arcteryx Atom Hoody SV 19.0 oz- 562g
Mtn Hardware Compressor Hoody 19.8oz- 586g
Arcteryx Gamma MX Hoody XL 24oz -710g
Arcteryx Squamish pullover XL 5.6oz -166g

Pants:
Paradox, mid weight longs 8oz
ARC Gamma Lt large 12.4 oz
Mtn H. Ridge Runner 3/4 16oz
ARC Gamma MX large 19oz
NWAlpine salopettes large 21.6oz
ARC Gamma MX salopettes large 30.4oz
ARC GTX Theta Bib large 23.3oz

Helmets:
Black Diamond Traser 8.5oz
Black Diamond Half Dome 12oz
Petzl Ecrin Roc 16oz
Grivel Salamander 13.7oz
Petzl Elios 12oz
Petzl Meteor III 7.9oz


Crampons per pair:

BD Stinger, w/ full bot 32oz  or 900g
Dartwin 1/2 bot 30.5oz
Dart no bot 28.8oz
Grivel G12 ful bot 35.6oz
Grivel G 20 28.2 oz  or 800g
Grivel G 22 w/full bot 900g
Camp Aluminum full tape bot 15.2oz
Stainless Sabertooth full bot 34.2oz
Stainless Sabertooth full bot with Petzl bail & heel 30.2oz
Stainless Sabertooth no bot with Petzl bail toe 28.4oz or 808g
Stainess Sabertooth, Neve heel, no bots with Petzl front bale 25.4oz or 720g
Stainless Serac full bot 34.2oz
Stainess Serac, Neve heel, no bots with Petzl front bale 26.oz
Old Cyborg full bot 42.2oz
Stainless Cyborg full bot 39.4oz
Stainless Cyborg, mono, no bot, 28.6
Stainless Cyborg, mono, no bot, Petzl bails, 27.6
Stainless Cyborg/ Neve, no bot, Petzl bails, mono point 24.2oz

Petzl bail .7oz
Petzl heel lever 2.9oz
BD bail .9oz
BD heel lever (new) 3.4oz

Ropes:

Harness

9 comments:

Oscar said...

How about including Grams (g)? 1oz=28.3496g

John Box said...

Couple of questions, what size boots, and the weights are for one or both boots? Thanks for giving us a voice :)

Dane said...

John, as mentioned in the post, all the weights are for a single boot in a size 45 (Sportiva) or a 11.5/12 US. Belay jackets are all XL unless noted other wise.

brooklyngoilinnewpaltz said...

great blog Dane. I've been reading it all winter. Really helpful. cheers.

Dane said...

Oscar, buddy, you are killing me :) It is enough work to get it all down on paper in .oz!

Ken said...

Thanks for posting these weights. I was trying to find out the actual weights for the Grivel G12 and the BD Sabretooth. Got 'em. Thanks :o)

Ken said...

I thought the BD Sabretooths were heavier than the Grivel G12s. Turns out it's the other way around!

Jon Rhoderick said...

Full Sabretooth Clip 34.75oz

Dane said...

I was a duffus first time around and didn't notice you were specifically posting the clip model's weight for comparison. I am surprised there is so little differnce between the Clip and the Pro models. Thanks for the info.