tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post7729387960423288277..comments2024-03-16T10:11:19.302-07:00Comments on Cold Thistle: The Scarpa Phantom 6000 reviewDanehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comBlogger84125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-61531295782642118462016-12-04T06:27:28.696-08:002016-12-04T06:27:28.696-08:00Thanks Dane. Initially I thought it was something ...Thanks Dane. Initially I thought it was something like what you mention, but then the pain appeared on both lower shins, so it's the boot. You are right that these boots feel more like ski boots, and must be treated as such.<br /><br />I'll definitely try another layer of socks and the moleskin.<br /><br />Thanks for your input!<br /><br />Leo Leonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-91038472729332504722016-12-03T19:11:18.877-08:002016-12-03T19:11:18.877-08:00Leo, not had or heard of the problem. Might try l...Leo, not had or heard of the problem. Might try loosing or tightening the strap..or adding socks. Or may be just some mole skin on your shin till you get use to the pressure. I spend a lot of time in ski boots so my shins are pretty use to some serious abuse. I also go through a lot of mole skin and mole foam if I have a problem like what I think you are describing.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-5270628792500846792016-12-03T18:48:29.893-08:002016-12-03T18:48:29.893-08:00Hello,
I bought a pair of 2016 Scarpa Phantom 600...Hello,<br /><br />I bought a pair of 2016 Scarpa Phantom 6000's after spending time on your blog, which by the way is very informative. <br /><br />I am having a bit of buyer's remorse after having tried them out today during a 6h climb. The area in the boot where you loop your velcro felt like a having a bolt pressing on both my feet after a while. Have you experienced this or heard anybody else complain about this? <br /><br />Otherwise, I really liked how warm it is and how it handles with crampons.<br /><br />Do you have any suggestions on how to deal with this issue? Perhaps using two pairs of socks?<br /><br />Thanks!Leonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-45572181761861047162016-01-29T17:17:10.277-08:002016-01-29T17:17:10.277-08:006000 did have more toe room for me but I also chan...6000 did have more toe room for me but I also changed inner boots.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-40795331080125690052016-01-29T01:17:12.507-08:002016-01-29T01:17:12.507-08:00Excellent blog and page, lots of useful informatio...Excellent blog and page, lots of useful information here! I ordered a couple of Spantiks and was soo happy when the inner boot did fit perfectly with a lot of space around toes etc. However when entering the outer boot, everything got snug. I have EU42 in street shoes, 42,5 in running shoes and did order a pair of 43,5 spantiks. <br /><br />I've read about the moldering, but in this case it feels like it is the shell which isn't wide enough in the toe box. I will however order a size 44 just to try and see if it makes any difference at all. <br /><br />Could the Phantom6000's be an alternative? How are their toe box compared to the spantiks? Am thinking of ordering a pair of 44'ths of them too just ty try out.Peter Lhttp://happyhiker.senoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-58322208373451727622015-02-08T22:57:27.261-08:002015-02-08T22:57:27.261-08:00Yes..they will work with a few touring bindings..Yes..they will work with a few touring bindings..Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-75952868760707002822015-02-06T13:19:09.188-08:002015-02-06T13:19:09.188-08:00Do you know if these boots fit into any ski tourin...Do you know if these boots fit into any ski touring setup? ...I'm thinking similar to a Spantik in Fritschi bindings.<br /><br />My friend has just bought some Spantiks and they will ski/tour to an acceptable level on approach and descent. I'm currently making a decision between the 6000's and the Spantiks simply because of this option... I'm starting to resent the way I have to carry my B3's in my bag every time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-89791347324649961032015-01-21T19:52:05.520-08:002015-01-21T19:52:05.520-08:00I believe so. But better to ask Scarpa directly.I believe so. But better to ask Scarpa directly.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-52226360474823306782015-01-21T19:28:48.682-08:002015-01-21T19:28:48.682-08:00Is it possible in you opinion, to resole them when...Is it possible in you opinion, to resole them when the sole will be worn out?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05200607583871523922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-37377961255308353972014-11-17T20:20:47.563-08:002014-11-17T20:20:47.563-08:00I would get hold of Zach at Sturdevants in Bellevu...I would get hold of Zach at Sturdevants in Bellevue. Ask to have him do them for you personally.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-42527381519276163352014-11-17T13:40:48.317-08:002014-11-17T13:40:48.317-08:00Who do you recommend for molding in pierce or king...Who do you recommend for molding in pierce or king county? Or anywhere around the sound for that matter. Thanks again!Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00119272742212089291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-59124804431939583172014-11-17T13:12:17.929-08:002014-11-17T13:12:17.929-08:00May be. Certainly sounds like you could. I'd...May be. Certainly sounds like you could. I'd try molding them without the super feet for more room, if your feet can take it.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-82142410662024194932014-11-17T11:06:40.391-08:002014-11-17T11:06:40.391-08:00Dane,
I wear a 45 in rebel ultras, but with not a...Dane,<br /><br />I wear a 45 in rebel ultras, but with not an ideal fit. I have very wide feet. The 45 in rebels is a bit long but it was the only way I could manage the width of my feet. I found a steal on some 6000s size 44 and I intend on getting a baruntse liner and using black superfeet(low volume). I know the phantom guides (and I'm hoping the 6000s) had a wider last unlike the rebels. Curious to if you think I could manage a 44 in the 6000s. In scarpa approach shoes I wear a 43.5 and LA sportiva Nepal in 44-44.5. Obviously if a shop was close I would go but I can't find anyone nearby. Thanks for your time!Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00119272742212089291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-23870512700017386322014-09-12T11:13:35.265-07:002014-09-12T11:13:35.265-07:00Good boots. It is what I am currently using for a...Good boots. It is what I am currently using for a cold weather dbl. And I like them a lot. I did not size up. 46 should be good I suspect. Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-20823212167979336702014-09-11T02:15:35.233-07:002014-09-11T02:15:35.233-07:00Hi Dane,
thanks for all the great info!
Just w...Hi Dane, <br /><br />thanks for all the great info! <br /><br />Just wondering...Planning a Cordillera Blanca trip next year, Huascaran Sur. Thinking Scarpa 6000s are my best bet. Would you agree with that, based on warmth and the aim to not pack overs?<br /><br />Second, and more importantly, did you size up from the guides to the 6000s? I wear 46 in the guide and would like to buy a pair online without trying them on (None are available in the stores to try on here in Stockholm). <br /><br />Thanks in advance!Ryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-69575932967324736292014-04-29T18:49:17.099-07:002014-04-29T18:49:17.099-07:00you don't want to use Denali boots on Rainier ...you don't want to use Denali boots on Rainier or the other way around. You really want two different boots.<br /><br />Size the Baruntse right and then mold the liner. I wouldn't take a too big 6000. I sized my 6000 down and then molded a Baruntse liner for them. More time in boots will tell you if you feet really swell...most don't other than from use-not using them. Good luck!Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-10701417061314987632014-04-27T12:40:57.804-07:002014-04-27T12:40:57.804-07:00Hi Dane - Amazingly helpful blog! I'm getting ...Hi Dane - Amazingly helpful blog! I'm getting ready for Rainier (July 2014) and Denali (May/June 2015) and I'm struggling to find boots that fit well. I don't have difficult feet to fit (10.5 US running shoe), but have tried both the Baruntse (44.5), which where way too big and the Phantom 6000's (44), which were a bit tight. My feet tend to swell and get a bit cold and I'm concerned size 44 Phantom 6000's with stock liners and med hiking socks will not work. Would you recommend trying to replace the stock liner with the Palau liner or size up to a 45 in the 6000's and use a thicker sock? Any advice is greatly appreciated.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />JensonJensonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-58740325186553783392014-02-17T21:39:41.316-08:002014-02-17T21:39:41.316-08:00I use a lwt wool sock with the Baruntse liner. Lo...I use a lwt wool sock with the Baruntse liner. Lots of info here on that. Just order the same size liner as your 6000. Should be the same as your Nepals.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-63001811692261750512014-02-17T21:17:25.420-08:002014-02-17T21:17:25.420-08:00Hi Dane,
I apologize if this has been covered alr...Hi Dane,<br /><br />I apologize if this has been covered already, but what sock would you use with the 6000s?<br /><br />Presently I am climbing in an old pair of Nepal Extremes. I climb in these with Thorlo mountaineering socks with a liner sock..<br /><br />My climbs in the next few years will be higher - 6000+. When sizing a pair, would I look to use a thinner sock with a sock liner?<br /><br />Also, if I'm looking to replace the inner boot with a Baruntse liner, would that change the boot size required compared to the original liner?<br /><br />Any help is greatly appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-48706113718862118372013-11-15T10:34:06.238-08:002013-11-15T10:34:06.238-08:00I am also a big fan of the Spantik. I've clim...I am also a big fan of the Spantik. I've climbed in them with the factory liner a lot. It is a solid choice. 6000 is a better technical boot, the Spantik more supportive if you are doing a lot of just ice. Either is a good choice I think. The differences between them are that extreme.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-18179894697673189902013-11-15T02:01:32.931-08:002013-11-15T02:01:32.931-08:00Ive read most of them. There's so many boot re...Ive read most of them. There's so many boot reviews its not easy to make a good summary of them. Is the 6000 still your preferred double boot if you had to use the original inner boot and not the baruntse? Thinking about those comments about the original inner dont giving enough support for your calfs. Cant get hold of the baruntse boot here in norway, so getting the liner of that is almost impossible.Kristoffernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-40008110894988460832013-11-14T14:49:35.218-08:002013-11-14T14:49:35.218-08:006000 is my current double boot of choice. Several...6000 is my current double boot of choice. Several reviews and comments on it here on the blog. Try a quick search and see what turns up.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-87660788335870076202013-11-14T05:38:49.141-08:002013-11-14T05:38:49.141-08:00Is the 6000 the boot you would recommend for days ...Is the 6000 the boot you would recommend for days of technical climbing in cold weather(-10 to -20C)?Kristoffernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-42256757928487783382013-04-09T07:51:16.091-07:002013-04-09T07:51:16.091-07:00Hi Dane, great blog, very useful information. I ha...Hi Dane, great blog, very useful information. I have couple questions.My English is not perfect, so apologies in advance. I live in Georgia, Caucasus. For several years I have been using Scarpa omegas, they performed well here in winter, a bit hot for summer. Few year ago I climbed Khan-Tengri in them and I was ok, no problems at all. But I did it in Alpine style-one night only.This year I plan to do Pobeda which is more difficult and higher. I decided to go with scarpa omegas size bigger but with Denali intuition liners. Are they much warmer than stock omega intuition liners? From your double boots blog, if I understood correctly the difference between Koflach arctis exp and Degree is bulk. does it mean that Scarpa Invernos with denali liners and size bigger Omegas with denali liners would be almost the same weight and size..would they perform similarly? So why pay more for heavier Spantiks? Sorry for so many questions, unfortunately there are not any mountaineering shops here so I can't really compare them visually. And it is very hard for me to buy boots by mail. It takes 2-3 weeks for delivery one way only, I can't afford mistakes when ordering them. Thanks in advance and please keep updating your blog, to help people like me.<br />P.S. toasty feet aerogel liners -Do they really work? Have you used them?goganoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-45762957696730454392013-04-07T01:58:18.285-07:002013-04-07T01:58:18.285-07:00Hi, your blog is excellent.
I am fairly novice bu...Hi, your blog is excellent.<br /><br />I am fairly novice but have learnt a lot of practical information from you advice.<br /><br />Can I ask you brief thoughts on these 2 boots, likely used for Scottish winter (ice) climbing, chamonix glacier play and mt blanc summit;<br /><br />Mammut nordwand or Millet navai<br /><br />Thank youGeraldnoreply@blogger.com