tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post4739977882696123899..comments2024-03-16T10:11:19.302-07:00Comments on Cold Thistle: Dynafit bindings ramp?...if you are on them think about this...Danehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-88761961167419608352017-08-15T23:31:23.158-07:002017-08-15T23:31:23.158-07:00Thanks a lot for the input Dane! Totally thought I...Thanks a lot for the input Dane! Totally thought I wrote you back but I can see now that I did not.. How is the release of the superlight heel working together with the speed radical toe? :) I agree on the stronger toe, the speed radical toe is totally bomber and trustworthy in the fast, light and long touring. Thanks again for shedding some light on this! <br /><br />Jonathan, I could actually get them from a few sporting stores in Norway. Like this one :http://hardhaussport.no/products/dynafit-tlt-radical-st-baltoro <br />Still have the first edition in some left over stock I guess. Thanks for the input as well :) <br /><br />Happy winter when that comes! New snow in the mountains in Northern Norway now, wahoo! Bjørnar Siikavuopio Kolflaathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16354150286474263099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-46543260615437904572017-02-23T15:08:56.255-08:002017-02-23T15:08:56.255-08:00Bjørnar, where/how are you even able to get a Spee...Bjørnar, where/how are you even able to get a Speed Superlite "1.0" heel piece?<br />If you're instead referencing the current Superlite 2.0, then that's another 5cm higher, so total heel>toe delta would be 6mm (going by Dane's figure for the older setup).Jonathan S. Shefftzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00532156922403744857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-38314421617766739222017-02-23T08:35:42.386-08:002017-02-23T08:35:42.386-08:00Bjornar,
Great minds think alike :) I use a Speed...Bjornar,<br />Great minds think alike :) I use a Speed Radical toe with a Speed Super light heel on a few pairs of my skis. The idea was to get a little stronger toe on skis I don't worry so much about weight. Total ramp for that rig is +1mm of Heel lift. Spectacular for skiing. `Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-80701814585118228342017-02-23T02:30:10.455-08:002017-02-23T02:30:10.455-08:00Hey and thanks for sharing angles and compatibilit...Hey and thanks for sharing angles and compatibility between heel and toe pieces! I was considering getting the superlight heel piece and use my speed radical toe piece. Do you know what the ramp angle would be without any adjustment plate on the heel piece and no shim on the toe piece? Thanks! Bjørnar Siikavuopio Kolflaathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16354150286474263099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-4083596686909534292014-08-19T13:04:19.223-07:002014-08-19T13:04:19.223-07:00Doug, the skinning delta that I’ve measured on rac...Doug, the skinning delta that I’ve measured on race and near-race bindings (from top of heel cover to toe pincers) is as follows:<br />5mm = ATK WC SL/SL-R (rebranded by Hagan this past season, and now apparently Fischer and Movement for this coming season)<br />6mm = Dynafit Low Tech Race<br />9mm = Plum 135/145, ATK RT (previously rebranded by La Sportiva) with a 2nd position varying depending on the options, Dynafit Speed Superlight with a 2nd position at 25mm<br />11mm = Plum 165<br />(Excellent *skiing* delta stats here: http://skimo.co/pin-heights)<br />Some of this precision is spurious, since many of the heel covers are somewhat curved, so the exact delta will depend on which part of the boot heel rubber sole is resting on top of which part of the heel cover.<br />By contrast though, the lower of the two elevators on a Dynafit Vertical is 30, and the Radical is 19. (More such stats linked from the fourth paragraph here: http://avycourse.blogspot.com/2010/04/winter-field-sessions-gear-requirements.html )<br />Bottomline for me is that on the many race and near-race bindings I own, of those that can go “flat” I rotate it that way only a couple times or so a year, and on those that can’t go flat I don’t really miss it. <br />Overall, the excellent rearward articulation of race boots more than offsets the small amount of binding skinning position delta on long flat approaches.<br />However, if you do have lots of long flat approaches, then the optimum combination would be a race boot combined with a race or near-race binding that can be rotated 90 degrees, especially with an adjustment plate or track that offers a true flat position rather than a slightly negative position (i.e., toe slightly elevated when in binding pincers, but heel resting directly on ski topskin).<br />Also for ATK WC SL/SL-R, although the binding can be rotated 90 degrees, that position binds up against the boot heel. But ATK officially says that changing the gap from 4mm to 5 or 5.5 is fine.<br />And unrelated, but re: “old TLTs - now called the Speed Turn” – the Speed Turn toe is indeed just the old IV/Tech/Classic/Speed (with a Radical toe lever), although the Speed Turn heel is the Speed Radical heel (combined with a IV/Tech/Classic/Speed heel plate and integrated metal elevator)Jonathan S. Shefftzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00532156922403744857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-43097716870034863752014-08-19T08:34:56.188-07:002014-08-19T08:34:56.188-07:00I did the class Haute Route last spring with a pai...I did the class Haute Route last spring with a pair of race bindings on my Cho Oyu with a TLT6. Plenty of climbing and skinning. Now use the Race or Super-lwt version on most of my skis. Only exceptions is with my bigger boots and even then I'll use the older TLT heel to lower the ramp angle a few mm. Between flat tour mode, race heels and Speed Superlwt heels there is a difference. Race is good, flat is good and the SSL is manageable. But also a better ski release mode as well. With a TLT6 boot the added ramp in touring mode is not annoying for me. Easy enough to get use to. But I don't have toe bang either.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-73360970335784834852014-08-19T08:05:19.052-07:002014-08-19T08:05:19.052-07:00I am going to pick up a new pair of Dynafits this ...I am going to pick up a new pair of Dynafits this season (have two pairs of old TLTs - now called the Speed Turn) and really like the low ramp angle of the Speed Superlites in ski mode; however, I am scared of the ramp angle in tour mode (for those that don't know, the heel on the Superlite doesn't rotate to provide a flat boot touring mode, but you flip a plate to cover the pins which is essentially a low heel lift).<br /><br />This setup will be used on tons of long missions with lots of flat logging road approaches. I often ski low angle descents without my heel locked too. I HATE having any ramp in tour mode and the resulting toe bang. <br /><br />Anyone want to comment of the ramp of the racing bindings like the Superlights when in tour mode?Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03803132379198754709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-11240324736025931172014-08-15T11:13:53.264-07:002014-08-15T11:13:53.264-07:00"Pretty common stuff in the alpine world. T..."Pretty common stuff in the alpine world. The BC boot and binding makers have different priorities."<br />- Although I totally agree with you on getting binding delta fairly close to zero, I don't think it's a case of the alpine downhill companies getting it vs the alpine touring companies being ignorant.<br />- And at the extreme opposite, check out this new setup from Atomic, which would always have the effect of throwing me into the backseat (and exactly when I need to be the most balanced):<br />http://siasnowshow.snowsports.org/supplierdashboard/upload/703/_Atomic_Press_Release_2014_15_Ride_Redster.pdfJonathan S. Shefftzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00532156922403744857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-62421648543981855432014-08-14T15:07:02.387-07:002014-08-14T15:07:02.387-07:00Hi again,
Thanks for responding! actually got to ...Hi again, <br />Thanks for responding! actually got to the bindings earlier today. ramp was at about 9mm. looks like its going to be a second pair of superlites on my denalis!<br />rockin blog btw. Nick the Norwegiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-32367684491415087632014-08-14T02:32:19.570-07:002014-08-14T02:32:19.570-07:00Can this ramp not cause any foot injury or some fo...Can this ramp not cause any foot injury or some foot problems? I just missed winter just by reading this post. Thanks a lot.Allenhttp://www.achingfoot.org/what-is-sinus-tarsi-syndrome/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-64392787724331467172014-08-12T11:52:40.303-07:002014-08-12T11:52:40.303-07:00Good call Nick..the C-One should be close to what ...Good call Nick..the C-One should be close to what I am using but you'll want to add the dynafit 6mm shim @ the toe if they don't come with one.<br /><br />Ditch my adjustment plate though and you are at a -1mm. Better yet. C-one won't do that.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-63546485485418257242014-08-12T11:44:26.891-07:002014-08-12T11:44:26.891-07:00I guess you already know.. but the last pic is pre...I guess you already know.. but the last pic is pretty much 14/15 C-one bindings. Any words on how the ramp on those will be?<br /><br />Nick the Norwegiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-70348402294763368612014-08-09T13:42:41.091-07:002014-08-09T13:42:41.091-07:00I actually prefer some ramp. Maybe it's that I...I actually prefer some ramp. Maybe it's that I rode East Coast ice on race skis for so long. I have Vertical ST and Garmont Radium boots, and I actually wish I had more ramp and forward lean. Probably could get away with just more forward lean alone, but I notice the ramp is less than my in bounds skis.Linnaeusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-91572467294392900762014-08-09T11:58:01.975-07:002014-08-09T11:58:01.975-07:00Agreed. High ramp angle, means grabby
skis. Thanks...Agreed. High ramp angle, means grabby<br />skis. Thanks for the alert. My newest set of <br />Dinfits bindings with their new very high ramp<br />angle made my new well tuned skis a total drag to <br />be out on. Several wasted days of awful skiing.<br />Dane thanks for the heads up. <br />I discovered this neglected issue years ago with the help<br />of one of our more technical instructors on the<br />Telluride Ski School. Micheal Pupco. He even <br />invented a binding addressing ramp angle. <br />Eric Wrightnoreply@blogger.com