tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post3600920868755862018..comments2024-03-16T10:11:19.302-07:00Comments on Cold Thistle: MY “2 PENCE” ON MIDLAYERSDanehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-812877970272330352011-12-31T15:54:53.142-08:002011-12-31T15:54:53.142-08:00I'm so happy I still have my first generation ...I'm so happy I still have my first generation R1 Hoodie.<br /><br />It's cut so tight and fitted, great sliding and wear patches where needed.<br />The sleeves turn into a soft shell material that is ultra thin and sheds whatever made it past the jacket cuffs, The wrists panels are cut like the palm of a glove with the thumb hole to match.<br /><br />Many people think it's goofy and uncomfortable but the waist is long enough to clearly fit below a harness and the material is longer in the center like a women's body-suit, it even has a thin crotch strap to insure you'll never have to worry about that un-tucked scale.<br /><br />Of course, chest pocket, diagonal offset half-zip, wetsuit type hoodie fit.<br /><br />I'm disappointed that Pata 'dummed down' that piece of gear, I'll see if I can get someone to copy / pattern this hoodie.Luchttp://www.mountainproject.com/u/luc//106993942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-91787672809384202822011-12-29T07:24:51.283-08:002011-12-29T07:24:51.283-08:00If you want REALLY long arm lengths, the Sherpa Tc...If you want REALLY long arm lengths, the Sherpa Tchimi hoodie is a good bet. More of a baselayer, but man, I think the arms on mine are an extra three or four inches. Almost too much bunching on the arms, even when I use the thumbloops.<br /><br />I bought the original First Ascent Bat Hang hoodie which I love as a very cold condition mid-layer. Unfortunately, it was one of the first items EB discontinued off the First Ascent line - though they brought the name back and applied it to a totally different hoodie. The one I have is thin micro-grid fleece on the torso and arms, with the cuffs, hem, hood, and shoulders made of a slicker, more windproof fleece. It doesn't get used alot, but its perfect for when I do need a little more insulation.Wyattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-9484772621929761862011-12-29T01:00:17.224-08:002011-12-29T01:00:17.224-08:00There seems to be another option from Mammut http...There seems to be another option from Mammut http://www.mammut.ch/de/productDetail/101010350_v_0001_M/Aconcagua+Hoody+Men.html.<br /><br />MatejAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-85347151155700681762011-12-28T09:55:46.635-08:002011-12-28T09:55:46.635-08:00I too considered the EB FA Bat Hang and Hangfire h...I too considered the EB FA Bat Hang and Hangfire hooded layers, but decided against them. Instead I purchased a midlayer from Wild Things Gear. The Wind Pro Hoody. It's made from thin polartec wind pro fleece that blocks out the majority of the wind. http://www.wildthingsgear.com/review/product/list/id/4601/category/851/<br />I rarely use thumb loops, and this has none. Instead it has fairly snug fitting openings at the end of the arms. The length is plentiful so it stays tucked in. The hood is snug, thin enough to fit comfortably under my helmet, but has enough flex to look around while wearing it and not feel restricted.<br />The fit is very athletic. I am 6' tall, about 160lbs, typical climber build, and a large fits perfectly over midweight base layer.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16376412729359706739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-21682263231973504952011-12-28T08:34:57.686-08:002011-12-28T08:34:57.686-08:00Hi Jon.
I compared the thumb loops on my Yukon Ja...Hi Jon. <br />I compared the thumb loops on my Yukon Jacket with most of the other thumb loops and I much prefer design on this Mammut piece its not very bulky on the palm of the hand. It does cut in a bit around the thumb but only after they have been on for a good few hours, but I would expect that with any. <br />I do sometimes use my thumb loops over the top when I am wearing thin leather gloves in dry conditions for better dexterity without having to worry about extra material in the gloves. This means I can wear a glove which fits my hand rather then getting a size up and having baggy fingers. I would normally only use a gauntlet if it is genuinely cold as I find that I can't climb technically as well/quickly/hard in thicker gloves such as the ZENTA AR for example.<br />It does wear the material out on the thumb loop faster if you wear them on the outside, especially if you have to do any hand jamming!! <br /><br />DaveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-49639959802212169992011-12-28T07:49:47.331-08:002011-12-28T07:49:47.331-08:00Nice write-up Dave. I'm definitely interested ...Nice write-up Dave. I'm definitely interested in trying out this jacket at some point. I recently got the Radiant Hybrid hoody from OR that seems like it fits somewhere between the lighter options (R1, NWA Black Spider), and a more stout one such as the Yukon. Another OR piece, the Centrifuge jacket, appears like it might be somewhat comparable to the Yukon as well. I'd love to see them all compared side-by-side (along with other similar pieces).Julianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17418359111867504412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-67679515569723140252011-12-28T07:42:43.817-08:002011-12-28T07:42:43.817-08:00I should just leave this for Dave. Hopefully he&#...I should just leave this for Dave. Hopefully he'll drop by soon. Only thumb loops I use, are on a R1 style and thickness base layer. Even then they are almost always too short and cut my hands at the base of the thumb. I use a gauntlet style glove so little need and more comfort without in my case.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-81565134704640308862011-12-28T05:31:06.936-08:002011-12-28T05:31:06.936-08:00Hi Dave (and Dane). I have been looking at the Ma...Hi Dave (and Dane). I have been looking at the Mammut Yukon Jacket, and your thoughts confirm to me that it looks like a good piece of kit. <br /><br />Just a question on thumb loops. I see how having long arms makes thumb loops good for you. However, personally I have noticed a real difference in how these are constructed. Many garments with thumb loops seem to be very bulky in the palm of my hand, which is exactly what I don't want. What have you found? I also noticed on your ascent of Pinnochio, that you used the thumb loops over a pair of gloves instead of underneath. I would have never of considered doing this, but maybe it's the way forward. What are your thoughts?Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12248630496195861998noreply@blogger.com