tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post3132253162467677119..comments2024-03-16T10:11:19.302-07:00Comments on Cold Thistle: The La Sportiva Batura 2.0Danehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-42430298147363342422016-03-23T10:19:14.337-07:002016-03-23T10:19:14.337-07:00I wear a US 11.5, have narrow feet and use a 45 Ba...I wear a US 11.5, have narrow feet and use a 45 Batura.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-32315933849116612392016-03-23T00:33:20.490-07:002016-03-23T00:33:20.490-07:00I'm wearing Salomon size 11. As a person of ex...I'm wearing Salomon size 11. As a person of experience, would you suggest size 46 baturas?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14110067438327356510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-74579387916056049252016-03-22T18:15:34.351-07:002016-03-22T18:15:34.351-07:002.0 should be normal sizing. I would not size up....2.0 should be normal sizing. I would not size up. If your feet are that wide I'd find a different boot.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-56972724801872406912016-03-22T18:00:07.234-07:002016-03-22T18:00:07.234-07:00Hi guys, Im considering buying the boots but i hav...Hi guys, Im considering buying the boots but i have no experience or possibility to try any of the La Sportivas. In one of the articles it was mentioned that guy of size 45, comfortably wears Batura 2.0 size 46 due to a wider feet and space in the boot. <br />Any feedback please? Do they run small or large for you?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14110067438327356510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-8125147017299702652015-11-19T00:58:16.878-08:002015-11-19T00:58:16.878-08:00You'll need a good double boot. Batura won&#...You'll need a good double boot. Batura won't do it.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-55692917952529615962015-11-18T23:08:22.139-08:002015-11-18T23:08:22.139-08:00Hey great review! I am planning to stop renting bo...Hey great review! I am planning to stop renting boots anymore and get my first pair of mountaineering boots. <br />The La Sportiva cube GTX was my choice at first until I found out that it will not be warm enough for Denali. Thus, either La Sportiva Batura 2.0 GTX or G2 Sm that is coming soon.<br /><br />How do you think the La Sportiva Batura 2.0 GTX would fair on long climb such as Mount Elbrus to Denali?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13052528540374489608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-25496220156007785802015-10-31T23:09:47.993-07:002015-10-31T23:09:47.993-07:00Tad,
Batura is a good boot for the warmth you requ...Tad,<br />Batura is a good boot for the warmth you require on those hills and the time frames you mention IMO. Can't remember if there is a lace loop on the Batura. But I don't use one any way. Simple bungie cord under my boots hold the pants down and make a worth while gaiter even in the worst conditions. Replace as need. I generally get one good season out of a single piece of cord.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-35225297642595928972015-10-31T22:47:11.416-07:002015-10-31T22:47:11.416-07:00Dane, would the Batura's be too warm for the N...Dane, would the Batura's be too warm for the NW Cascade Volcano's and such during the winter and shoulder seasons (and possibly summer).<br />Also, adding to the gaiter question above- is there a pace to hook the lace hook on gaiters or do you just cinch them down with the under arch strap? And have you found a descent cord to use for pants that doesn't ball up?<br />Thanks<br />Tad<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02955950931316942001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-113928644678486002015-09-30T12:46:12.434-07:002015-09-30T12:46:12.434-07:00Hi Simon,
I've done it both ways. Found havin...Hi Simon,<br />I've done it both ways. Found having the pants over the boots actually warmer. Most modern pants allow for some kind of tie down. Not perfect usually so rig a string to the pant that will go under the boot making for a pretty solid pant gaiter. Down side is pants are easy to shred with crampons. But worth the risk for the extra warmth for me. Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-83550244872567223022015-09-30T12:33:53.301-07:002015-09-30T12:33:53.301-07:00Fighting through waist high snow, would you recomm...Fighting through waist high snow, would you recommend using an extra pair of "real" gaiters in addition to the built-in ones? Or can you stuff your pants into the integrated gaiters?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03364809813721837005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-64062311985971269962014-05-22T12:40:03.044-07:002014-05-22T12:40:03.044-07:00Hi Alexander,
If you can really trust the temps t...Hi Alexander,<br /><br />If you can really trust the temps to be no lower than 1-10/15C a Batura (or other lwts) should be pleanty of boot. I used a Rebel Ultra this spring in Cham on a very cold and windy day. No reason to pack more than you need. Boot lasts are different between boots. Batura has more toe room which shoiuld make it a warmer boot as well for most of us. The Spantik doesn't mold a lot. Baruntse molds better and offers a better fit, more room when done right IMO. Denali and Acon I'd want a double however. Eventually you'll need both dbls and good cold weather singles if you want to climb and protect your feet so you can continue to do so.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-43243994827201769592014-05-20T21:42:49.991-07:002014-05-20T21:42:49.991-07:00Dane, first - thank you for the great information ...Dane, first - thank you for the great information and insight. Your analysis of gear and other mountaineering topics is a welcome voice of reason in Internet land of extreme opinions.<br /><br />I'm trying to outfit myself for a climb of a 5700 m peak in Peru. I'm hoping to solicit your thoughts on two topics related to these boots.<br /><br />1. If temperatures are supposed to bottom out at 0˚F, is a double boot like the Spantik a must? In general, what temperature range warrants a double vs. a super-gaiter or single?<br /><br />2. I'm a size 12.5. I got the Spantiks in 46.5, which is supposed to be the right conversion. But they definitely feel tight right now. This is in contrast to the Batura 2.0's that I got in size 46 (smaller) that feel more roomy. Is this expected with a double boot? Are you supposed to size up accordingly, or is the inner going to "give in" through heat molding and/or normal break-in?<br /><br />Basically, I'm on the fence about these Spantiks vs. the Batura 2.0's, in terms of outfitting myself for the PD+ Peru climb, as well as strategically planning for Shasta, Rainier, Denali and Aconcogua.<br /><br />Thank you very much for any thoughts you may offer.<br /><br />-Alexander BorodinAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14829229115793690256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-1589717359149922392014-03-19T02:23:22.054-07:002014-03-19T02:23:22.054-07:00Ran into major durability issue with the toe bail ...Ran into major durability issue with the toe bail on mine. Quite disappointed. Talking to La Sportiva now. Expected them to last more than 45 days of Canadian Rockies ice and mixed.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02888258073836211596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-46180618545607273352012-12-04T18:58:46.258-08:002012-12-04T18:58:46.258-08:00Either Batura boot should fit a narrow foot well. ...Either Batura boot should fit a narrow foot well. But I have no idea what size to suggest for you. What ever Nepal fits you should be the same size as your Baturas I would think. Godo luck.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-52495528584207052532012-12-04T14:10:14.306-08:002012-12-04T14:10:14.306-08:00Hello Dane, I want to buy my first Baturas. But I ...Hello Dane, I want to buy my first Baturas. But I have no possibility to try them anywhere in my place. My feet are about 268mm. What size of Evos or 2.0 would You recommend?<br /> I have quite narrow feet.<br />(I had Nepal Evo GTX 42 and they were slightly too small (one half or one size too small.)<br /> - Which Batura model would be better for a narrow feeter EVOS or 2.0?mountsunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10856698914555777127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-49991815798488925592012-10-18T20:59:40.128-07:002012-10-18T20:59:40.128-07:00Both are good boots. I would decide by how they ...Both are good boots. I would decide by how they each fit your foot which is different. Performance wise they a so similar as to be called equals. Old Batura and the Phantom guide comparison might be an interesting read for you.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-79358086159042745552012-10-18T20:47:59.661-07:002012-10-18T20:47:59.661-07:00How do you like these compared to the P-Guides?How do you like these compared to the P-Guides?Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023513087034699039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-86924468621174380512012-10-10T14:50:58.075-07:002012-10-10T14:50:58.075-07:00For me the 2.0 is a better fit around the ankle th...For me the 2.0 is a better fit around the ankle than the Evo. Most any clip on crampon works well on the La Sportiva boots.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-2078902862356564452012-10-10T11:14:45.604-07:002012-10-10T11:14:45.604-07:00I am wondering how the fit is compared to the Batu...I am wondering how the fit is compared to the Batura EVO? Any difference between the two? Also, any advice on which crampons fit the best? I have a pair of Grivel G14's and a pair of BD Cyborgs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-14177113245128285252012-05-08T11:03:27.903-07:002012-05-08T11:03:27.903-07:00In your picture it looks like the toe welt profile...In your picture it looks like the toe welt profile might be a little smaller than the Batura Evo. Is this true or is it the angle of the picture/my eyes? If so, has that and/or the the additional rocker caused any crampon fit problems? I know you mentioned that they fit crampons better than the Phantom Guide/Ultra, but most any boot does.Gear:30https://www.blogger.com/profile/18125730756250323507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-6784742854030513692012-05-03T22:14:54.882-07:002012-05-03T22:14:54.882-07:00Buy an all leather boot?
These guys (style of boo...Buy an all leather boot?<br /><br />These guys (style of boots) are made for snow and ice not unending Canadian limestone scree and talus slopes.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-57167002600091327022012-05-03T21:58:24.862-07:002012-05-03T21:58:24.862-07:00Any bright ideas about a system to protect the boo...Any bright ideas about a system to protect the boot on a rubbish approach or egress?lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07620528334131640862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-5194380076371462922012-04-25T10:56:50.424-07:002012-04-25T10:56:50.424-07:00Aveman, I have been able to recheck the boot weigh...Aveman, I have been able to recheck the boot weights. The 240g savings per boot is correct for a size 43. I have corrected the content to reflex that. Thanks for the catch! And you are right a full pound is a huge difference for a pair of boots.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-51620186666799673812012-04-24T07:33:07.942-07:002012-04-24T07:33:07.942-07:00Are they actually 240g lighter per boot? 1130 - 8...Are they actually 240g lighter per boot? 1130 - 890 = 240. Hate to be nitpicky about your math, but it's quite siginificant. 100g per foot is a lot...<br /><br />"1130g one 43 Batura Evo 2011<br />890g one 43 Batura 2.0 2012"<br /><br /><br />"140 grams = 4.93835467 ounces per boot<br /><br />That is a savings of 10oz per pair in a size 43 over the current boot.. "Avemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927399914645571271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-3876084312378287822012-04-23T09:26:11.245-07:002012-04-23T09:26:11.245-07:00The 2nd version did on me as well John. The origi...The 2nd version did on me as well John. The original did not. The 2.0 which is the 3rd version I've seen doesn't on me, thankfully.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.com