tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post3029587387185130578..comments2024-03-16T10:11:19.302-07:00Comments on Cold Thistle: The skinny from the inside..SKI specific.Danehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-43489521242809917892013-05-02T07:21:43.190-07:002013-05-02T07:21:43.190-07:00The boot center mark on my ski about 1cm short (to...The boot center mark on my ski about 1cm short (to the rear) of Colin's measurement. I had already measured the ski. I understand what you're saying and if my bindings were mounted 2cm-4cm back I would probably feel different. We'll see.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023513087034699039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-69779840104824965292013-05-01T22:05:04.674-07:002013-05-01T22:05:04.674-07:00Ian, the one thing I have learned/relearned again ...Ian, the one thing I have learned/relearned again this season is never, ever trust what the ski is marked. Your ski might well be perfect. I wouldn't make any assumptions about my 188s. <br /><br />I had the same issue with a pair of DPS skis this winter as well. It isn't simply a La Sportiva issue. But a industry wide issue that pays to keep track of on your own gear.<br /><br />Colin mentioned in his comments above, "For the Lo5 (measuring from the tail not the skin cut) the bc marks should be @70cm for the 168, @74.5cm for the 178, and @79.5 for the 188." <br /><br />My suggestion? You might want to take a moment and actually measure your pair. Between the guys I work with and myself we had one pair of 167s, 3 pair of 178s and one pair of 188s. Plus a few more 188s Colin measured in house at La Sportiva for me. I'll get into the details shortly in the Lo5 review where all are involved.<br /><br />It might not make any difference to you or your skiing. It does make a difference to me. Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-89065331944393050512013-05-01T19:42:45.224-07:002013-05-01T19:42:45.224-07:00Lou said they moved the bindings forward to see if...Lou said they moved the bindings forward to see if the chatter the tester was getting would change. He stated that he didn't think the ski performed any different but he used the ski after remounting the bindings and not the reviewer. The ski in the review was a pre-production demo and LS moved the boot center mark forward so the ski you and I have already have mounting locations forward of what is shown at Wildsnow. Lou also switched bindings in the process as well; there are two different hole patterns on the test skis. <br /><br />I'm going to ski them, if they suck worse that I suck then I'll consider moving the bindings. I plan on using these skis for touring and transportation so the weight is a bigger issue to me than the boot center location. I mounted the bindings .5cm forward of the mark to accommodate a longer boot so I'm reluctant to really worry. I'm going to ski them Friday so we'll see. Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023513087034699039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-39005226679986146392013-05-01T18:27:48.812-07:002013-05-01T18:27:48.812-07:00Colin @ La Sportiva is standup guy imo. It is tou...Colin @ La Sportiva is standup guy imo. It is tough to catch all the details in a new product. He's been up front with what happened and why. Good enough for me. I wasn't happy about the difference in weight either (and I buy my own skis they aren't given to me) The skis weight came in (out of 4 pair weighted) higher than what Wildsnow came up with as well.<br /><br />For a few of us it made the difference between a ski we would use and one we wouldn't. There were better options no matter how well the ski performed on snow.<br /><br />Boot center marks? That one is a totally different story. I'll have more details on that issue in a final follow up review from 4 of us using the Lo5 skis this season.<br /><br />My take on that one is..."it is a very BIG issue" when the ski gets mounted 1.5 or 2cm off center. Another point that would keep me off the ski (any ski) if mounted that far off center and incorrectly for the particular ski design. Think not? Move your bindings 2cm back on your 178s and get back to me on their performance. There was a reason W-Snow moved their pair of 188s 1cm forward. And it is not enough IMO. As it turns out, that is not enough in La Sportiva's opinion either.<br /><br />I think the Lo5 is one of the better 100mm under foot skis around for my own use. But not if it is mounted incorrectly.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-11088717642362057402013-05-01T18:02:27.209-07:002013-05-01T18:02:27.209-07:00I bought the Lo5 because LS said they were 1400 gr...I bought the Lo5 because LS said they were 1400 grams. I understand +/-50 grams but 250 grams is BS. LS knew the weights were wrong as soon as the pre-production models hit the docks but they still went to press with the old weight. I probably wouldn't have bought them if LS had labeled them correctly. <br />I think the boot center marking is over stated. I just wanted to know if I had my bindings laid out correctly.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023513087034699039noreply@blogger.com