tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post184540623075857662..comments2024-03-16T10:11:19.302-07:00Comments on Cold Thistle: Fitting and the detailing on climbing packs?Danehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-81145192450685399942012-05-04T15:30:08.477-07:002012-05-04T15:30:08.477-07:00Thanks, appreciate the feedback. I have a couple f...Thanks, appreciate the feedback. I have a couple frameless packs (Mountain Laurel Designs) for backpacking, and in the winter I have added the foam pad from my CiloGear, mostly for use as a sit pad at camp. But I haven't yet gone to just a pad for my climbing pack--but so long as the weight is kept down, I could go definitely see myself going that route. Not really sure that even having a pad sleeve would be necessary.Ryanhttp://www.desktodirtbag.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-37971071529070777082012-05-03T15:39:53.146-07:002012-05-03T15:39:53.146-07:00Hi Ryan, the Ozone will be too small I suspect unl...Hi Ryan, the Ozone will be too small I suspect unless you have Randy make a custom one for you.<br /><br />I have been using just the foam pads for years with no other support. If the pack fits right and you learn how to pack them the pad is more than enough imo.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-53332477236851426882012-05-03T15:16:00.927-07:002012-05-03T15:16:00.927-07:00Hey Dane, I've enjoyed your series on packs, I...Hey Dane, I've enjoyed your series on packs, I'm currently researching downsizing from my 60L to a 40L, and have been primarily looking at CiloGear, HMG's Ice Pack, and the CCW Ozone. I am not sold on any one in particular at this point. I was wondering if you could delve into the soft frame support a little more and any specifics on the foam backpad used (does it matter?), and whether aluminum stays would be worthwhile?Ryanhttp://www.desktodirtbag.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-66410146815175221172012-04-05T09:07:12.623-07:002012-04-05T09:07:12.623-07:00Good stuff Dane. Packs are a big fit problem for ...Good stuff Dane. Packs are a big fit problem for me: 6' 4" with a very long torso. Basically, nothing fits. After a few tries with Cold Cold World, we arrived at the perfect dimensions for me. As you say, even loaded, it's almost like not wearing a pack. I have two different packs (volume) with the same dimensions. I also appreciate your mention of the other things that make a difference: shoulder strap width, shoulder strap height on the pack, shoulder strap length, sternum strap placement, and so on. Anyway, looking forward to the next post, and for anybody looking for a pack, I simply can not recommend Cold Cold World highly enough. <br /><br />BrunoBruno Schullhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17545888600815223472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-63560891870552521412012-04-05T07:14:04.319-07:002012-04-05T07:14:04.319-07:00Great post. I came to pretty much these same conc...Great post. I came to pretty much these same conclusions by trial and error and suffering through a number of ill-fitting packs. It was Dan McHale who finally set me straight and made my first well-fitting climbing pack for me. What a difference. <br /><br /><br />I actually like my packs fitted just a little bit longer than you show in your picture, with just a tiny bit of "wrap" over the shoulder. For my body, the most comfortable fit is achieved when the shoulder straps are about 1/2 inch lower than the tops of my shoulders.Kainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-75079047741053442222012-04-04T20:47:03.784-07:002012-04-04T20:47:03.784-07:00Well written article found it both informative and...Well written article found it both informative and helpful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com