tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post1162674934259980422..comments2024-03-16T10:11:19.302-07:00Comments on Cold Thistle: Winter Alpine and Ice Glove Choices: part 3Danehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-2709638304210888572021-07-20T13:02:29.636-07:002021-07-20T13:02:29.636-07:00Can vouch for Firebrand great mitt and glove, I fi...Can vouch for Firebrand great mitt and glove, I find the liner is so warm that I substitute it for a thinner glove liner for dexterity. You can get Firebrands on eBay for under $75. They are given to US soldiers as winter gear and therefore sold cheap from army surplus stores when people leave the military. Hoping the military continues buying from good mountaineering brands, maybe black diamond can supply them with tents lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-45877964122739845642015-06-28T02:41:52.732-07:002015-06-28T02:41:52.732-07:00I have feedback on the Firebrand glove as I used t...I have feedback on the Firebrand glove as I used them on Denali. I couldn't wear the glove due to the inner liners. Yes it is a warm glove but for delicate work I (i.e. getting snacks out and and eating them) I still needed to take the outer off and use the liner. Here lies the major issue- the palm of the liner isn't water resistant- any handling of snow or anything with snow on it- the snow would melt and go straight through to my fingers and I would have wet liners. My fingers went numb multiple times using these gloves on Denali and I had to ditch them after 2 days. I went back to my basic leather work gloves and liners which ended up being warmer. My wife used the Alti gloves and as the liners are water resistant she had no problems with cold fingers when using only the liners. I was bitterly disappointed as I had high hopes for these gloves. Has anyone else had this problem? My 2c. Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-24053843934271113952015-02-01T19:31:19.212-08:002015-02-01T19:31:19.212-08:00I have both the Firebrand gloves and mitts. Agree...I have both the Firebrand gloves and mitts. Agree with Dane on the warmth of the glove: big warmth with admirable dexterity. No issues with warmth at temperatures down to -23C/-10F when moderately active.<br /><br />The mitts: as expected with a mitt this warm, they are somewhat balky with the full liners. Because the outer mitt is warm by itself, I reserve the full liners for truly extreme conditions, and use a cheap ragg wool glove(with the gripper dots) as a liner instead and find the mitts have pretty good dexterity with this combination as the gripper dots seem to grab the interior of the outer mitt. Super warm combo at -30C/-20'sF for me, and a better grip on an axe for glacier climbs than my primaloft or down mitts(my thumbs also stay warmer in the Firebrand mitts than the primaloft/down style). Have never needed the warmth of the full liner yet.<br /><br />OR's site has had the Firebrands at insane discounts...picked up an extra pair of mitts (lg) for $70.00USD! Online auction sites list big discounts too.Dave Carrollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-87459157367043178692015-01-26T11:41:47.926-08:002015-01-26T11:41:47.926-08:00It is a huge glove or mitt. I'd try both on b...It is a huge glove or mitt. I'd try both on before you buy..Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-74749544405381053562015-01-25T15:28:47.852-08:002015-01-25T15:28:47.852-08:00Dane,
Any thoughts on the Firebrand Mitt vs. Fire...Dane,<br /><br />Any thoughts on the Firebrand Mitt vs. Firebrand Gloves? Expedition and winter use, Denali and 5,000m+ trips. Do you think the gloves would be warm enough while still retaining a little more dexterity than the mitts? Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-39233667009293154022011-12-22T14:10:59.619-08:002011-12-22T14:10:59.619-08:00Firebrand is a BIG step up on the Alti...Firebrand is a BIG step up on the Alti...Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-47339418887110350512011-12-22T11:38:50.600-08:002011-12-22T11:38:50.600-08:00How do the Firebrands compare to the OR Alti glove...How do the Firebrands compare to the OR Alti gloves? I've found my hands get very cold in the Altis and I'm looking for something warmer. I've been wearing the Alti Mitts but I have to take them off constantly which results in cold hands that are difficult to warm up.Chris Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-57484013014180806442011-12-22T04:21:28.432-08:002011-12-22T04:21:28.432-08:00Did you have a chance to try the new Mammut Gipfel...Did you have a chance to try the new Mammut Gipfelgrat Gloves. They use the Neoshell Membrane on the outer like the Gipfelgrat Jacket. Was very impressed with the breathability of Neoshell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-35201814242892549162011-12-21T08:46:00.989-08:002011-12-21T08:46:00.989-08:00Thanks Evan. Just wanted to make sure no one conf...Thanks Evan. Just wanted to make sure no one confused the insulation of the Firebrand with the level offered in the Alpine Alibi or the Alpha. Or the even warmer Typhon and Medusa (compared to the Albi)<br /><br />Firebrand is a BIG glove with great dexterity for its size and warmth!Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08300760603627210620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6940163880772720830.post-9465663536911764742011-12-21T08:24:34.257-08:002011-12-21T08:24:34.257-08:00Great quickie article Dane!
To share my experienc...Great quickie article Dane!<br /><br />To share my experience on the Alpha SV: I picked up a pair of these when they first came out on prodeal, since I was working at an Arc'teryx dealer at the time. I thought that the combination of GTX, pile, and 'magical 3D finger modelling' would make for an outstanding climbing glove.<br /><br />While these gloves do climb very well (and the XLs do fit in the pommel of my Nomics ;), there are several wear issues that don't really have a justification in performance terms (...and for $300):<br /><br />- Pile has compacted SIGNIFICANTLY with one season of use so that both the fit and the warmth are now compromised.<br />- Leather on palm and thumb is not designed for climbing I think. Its thin an so supple that it tears and burnishes easily. My gloves look 3 years old from handling tools and rope for just 30 days out last year.<br />- The elastic wrist strap/pull is pretty weak sauce. I asked the sales rep about this when he showed them to us (before I'd ordered them) and he said that it would be fine for years of use and that a shot elastic would be warranty-able. I didn't buy this brush off and don't really see the need for elastic there; I'm pretty much just waiting for it to blow up. I think its uncharacteristic poor design.<br /><br />All that being said, the dexterity of this glove is ridiculous. Clipping is very close to as good as when wearing my OR Alibis (thin leather competition glove) and handling rock pro is easy too. They're obviously wind and water PROOF, so they tend to sit with my hardshell pants for early and late season shower-stall days.<br /><br />For any of my fellow readers considering the gloves you mentioned, I'd also recommend the OR Alpine Alibi. Not quite as warm as the Firebrand, but has essentially the same outstanding dexterity as the Alphas - at least the way they fit my hands.<br /><br />Thanks again for the great posts. Feel better mate!Evanhttp://evansharp.canoreply@blogger.com